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RE: Finding Jellyfin music from Sonos App - renegadeandy - 2024-11-04

I am not entirely sure what you mean by a custom profile? Can you explain a bit further?

RE: Finding Jellyfin music from Sonos App - TheDreadPirate - 2024-11-05

You'd go to /config/plugins/DNLA_5.0.0.0/profiles, copy one of the profiles, then modify it to match your Sonos. The Marantz or Denon AVR profiles are good starting points, since they are also audio only devices.

Specifically, you'd need to change the "Name" and "Identification" sections of the profile. Based on what is in your log, that'd look like this.

Code:
<Name>Sonos One</Name>
  <Identification>
    <FriendlyName>Sonos Games room</FriendlyName>
    <Manufacturer>Sonos</Manufacturer>
    <ModelNumber>S12</ModelNumber>
    <ModelName>Sonos Play:1</ModelName>
    <Headers>
      <HttpHeaderInfo name="User-Agent" value="Sonos DLNA" match="Substring" />
    </Headers>
  </Identification>


RE: Finding Jellyfin music from Sonos App - renegadeandy - 2024-11-05

Thanks @TheDreadPirate

So would I need one of those profiles for each of my speakers (they all have unique names).

By doing this the hypothesis is that I will be able to see my music collection from within the Sonos App?

Looking at an example statement:

Code:
DeviceIdentification { FriendlyName: "192.168.0.223 - Sonos Play:1 - RINCON_7828CA27F3AA01400 Games room", ModelNumber: "S12", SerialNumber: null, ModelName: "Sonos Play:1", ModelDescription: "Sonos Play:1", ModelUrl: "http://www.sonos.com/products/zoneplayers/S12", Manufacturer: "Sonos, Inc.", ManufacturerUrl: "http://www.sonos.com", Headers: [] }

I think therefore the snippet more accurately would be:


Code:
<Name>Sonos One</Name>

  <Identification>

    <FriendlyName>192.168.0.223 - Sonos Play:1 - RINCON_7828CA27F3AA01400 Games room</FriendlyName>

    <Manufacturer>Sonos, Inc.</Manufacturer>

    <ModelNumber>S12</ModelNumber>

    <ModelName>Sonos Play:1</ModelName>

    <Headers>

      <HttpHeaderInfo name="User-Agent" value="Sonos DLNA" match="Substring" />

    </Headers>

  </Identification>

Agree with the changes?

Okay so I made a "Sonos.xml" with the changes I suggested above. In the logs I now see:

[*]
Code:
DeviceIdentification { FriendlyName: "192.168.0.63 - Sonos Play:1 - RINCON_949F3E0EE68E01400 Games room", ModelNumber: "S12", SerialNumber: null, ModelName: "Sonos Play:1", ModelDescription: "Sonos Play:1", ModelUrl: "http://www.sonos.com/products/zoneplayers/S12", Manufacturer: "Sonos, Inc.", ManufacturerUrl: "http://www.sonos.com", Headers: [] }
[2024-11-05 13:11:35.615 +00:00] [INF] [20] Jellyfin.Plugin.Dlna.Main.DlnaHost: DLNA Session created for "192.168.0.63 - Sonos Play:1 - RINCON_949F3E0EE68E01400 Games room" - "Sonos Play:1" using profile "Generic Device"
[2024-11-05 13:11:35.646 +00:00] [INF] [10] Jellyfin.Plugin.Dlna.Main.DlnaHost: DLNA Session created for "192.168.0.223 - Sonos Play:1 - RINCON_7828CA27F3AA01400 Games room" - "Sonos Play:1" using profile "Sonos"
[2024-11-05 13:11:35.674 +00:00] [INF] [10] Jellyfin.Plugin.Dlna.DlnaManager: No matching device profile found. The default will need to be used.


SO, out of 7 speakers, the one in the profile is now associated with a specific Sonos DLNA profile, hte others are generic..off to test apps again!...

Sonos app is no different. No sign of Jellyfin music , nothing.

[*]Jellyfin official app sees each speaker but not groups, can indeed play music to a single speaker however is generally not a good solution to the problem<for clarity, this is identical to what I got out of the box installing DLNA plugin making no other changes>

[*]I am starting to think that the experience I am looking for actually wont be solved by the DLNA support in the project. Instead Jellyfin needs a first class integration with Sonos, so I have created this https://features.jellyfin.org/posts/2942/i-would-like-jellyfin-to-have-a-compatible-sonos-content-service-for-first-class-sonos-integration and an associated fork of the master branch, and working against my own feature branch to start working on the project.

[*]<If I am off track and it is still thought that what I want can be achieved without this - then fantastic - and let's keep digging here>

RE: Finding Jellyfin music from Sonos App - TheDreadPirate - 2024-11-05

You may be off track. Sonos supports DLNA, but apparently it requires it be enabled in the Sonos app?

https://en.community.sonos.com/controllers-and-music-services-229131/webradio-from-a-upnp-media-server-6890281

But I am not sure if this Sonos forum post is valid after the Sonos update this past summer.

RE: Finding Jellyfin music from Sonos App - renegadeandy - 2024-11-05

There is literally nothing in the Sonos app anywhere which mentions DLNA!

RE: Finding Jellyfin music from Sonos App - renegadeandy - 2024-11-05

I have made a post -- watching it with keen interest : https://en.community.sonos.com/controllers-and-music-services-229131/upnp-and-dlna-where-is-this-setting-now-6921131

RE: Finding Jellyfin music from Sonos App - TheDreadPirate - 2024-11-05

If Sonos no longer supports DLNA that would be nuts.

RE: Finding Jellyfin music from Sonos App - renegadeandy - 2024-11-05

Well clearly it is supported somewhere along the lines, because from jellyfin web or mobile app I can *cast* to a single speaker. But that's surely using DLNA to do so, but it's not the same level of integration we would expect.

RE: Finding Jellyfin music from Sonos App - renegadeandy - 2024-11-06

Well..it appears after speaking to Sonos that they removed UPNP and DLNA support along with SMBv1 from Sonos during the S1 -> S2 shift.
Terrible.

But it shows we need the content service integration more than ever if this is the case.....wouldn't mind your vote on the feature and everyone else who wants to use Jellyfin alongside Sonos! https://features.jellyfin.org/posts/2942/i-would-like-jellyfin-to-have-a-compatible-sonos-content-service-for-first-class-sonos-integration