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RE: Edited: I liked the reddit format over typical Forums (not reddit itself) - xiNe - 2023-07-29
guess no hope to switch to a reddit layout since no one further response :s
RE: can we go back to reddit - bitmap - 2023-08-08
(2023-06-21, 09:06 PM)skribe Wrote: What you are seeing as a strength here--namely cross pollination with a number of other conceptually adjacent spaces--is actually something that I personally was looking to get away from. I had stopped participating on the subreddit for some time already simply because I didn't agree with some of the common recommendations that such a community was frequently providing to jellyfin users.
I know this is an older post of yours @skribe, but I'm curious if you wouldn't mind expanding upon what you didn't agree with that were common recommendations? As somebody who would like to be an active participant in this community (as I'm able), I'm interested in learning more about the effective practices of others and the why behind certain recommendations. I can give my thoughts all day, but....if that's what makes folks leave...
RE: Edited: I liked the reddit format over typical Forums (not reddit itself) - grabbend - 2024-01-19
My 2 cents about this forum:
- It's inactive. After forgetting about it for a couple of weeks I was excited to read new posts and comments BUT there's RARELY anything new or interesting here. I don't see advanced users or developers in active discourse about insightful topics here. Just look at how much attention ANY Reddit post recived and the quality of the conversations versus this forum as a whole. It's harder to reach the masses from here...
- SEO ranking is really bad. Search Engines favors old Github and Reddit posts in top results even when there's new as well as relevant posts in this forum (which are rarely shown anyway despite existing for months).
- Markdown is annoying to work with. It's slow, it's not intuitive and scaling has much to be desired with ultrawide monitors.
- Notifications are non-existent. They're missing in Profile CP and sometimes I might get a email notification if I'm lucky (maybe it's working poorly because I've used oAuth?).
- Login is awful which often makes me give up. Trying to remember the password and doing CAPTCHA 3 times gets old real fast (since at first attempt it juat clears your credentials and tells you to complete CAPTCHA. Then 2 more times just to remember that I used Discord oAuth since error messages are misleasing, or wait was it Github?).
- The theme of this forum is boring. It reminds me of 2013 when everyone was using Xenforo and Enjin.. I just want to fall asleep after reading a few posts.
- I rarely see users talking about Jellyfin nowadays and complaints about this forum are never ending.
- If you don't use RSS, you'll likeky to never get notified about new interesting posts. Reddit's frontpage was perfect for organizing multiple communities into one place.
- Just look how active developers, homelab users and casual end-users used to be in Jellyfin's Subreddit. I feel like developers are rarely active if ever here. There's clearly lack of interest in this forum and I don't see a reason it would change any time soon. I LOVE JELLYFIN but not forum.
Restricting the community to this forum is a massive step backwards.
Yes, Reddit's CEO sucks and Lemmy website is even worse.
Nonetheless Reddit is still the best place for discourse.
RE: Edited: I liked the reddit format over typical Forums (not reddit itself) - Efficient_Good_5784 - 2024-01-19
(2024-01-19, 12:27 PM)grabbend Wrote: - It's inactive. After forgetting about it for a couple of weeks I was excited to read new posts and comments BUT there's RARELY anything new or interesting here. I don't see advanced users or developers in active discourse about insightful topics here. Just look at how much attention ANY Reddit post recived and the quality of the conversations versus this forum as a whole. It's harder to reach the masses from here...I've noticed that the vast majority of traffic to this forum are just new posts asking for help (which is kind of the point of this place). However the amount of users that respond to posts here seem to just be a handful. From my memory, it seems like the Jellyfin subreddit had a bunch more random people responding with comments to new posts. I kind of disagree with you on there not being anything new here, though I can see why you find it uninteresting. The majority of new posts here are just people asking for troubleshooting help, which most likely doesn't fall under new Jellyfin development talk that you're interested in.
There is the difference of how Reddit is set up to have an infinite scroll so you can forever scroll through posts (that you can also sort the order of), while this forum only has the "latest posts" table in the homepage that can only hold 15 topics at any point. Once your post falls out of this homepage section, most people that will fall into your post are those specifically looking for something similar. At least that's what happens with me. I only respond to things I see as new on the home page where I figure I have some capacity to help with. If I miss a topic on the home page due to me being offline, I most likely won't post in it.
(2024-01-19, 12:27 PM)grabbend Wrote: - SEO ranking is really bad. Search Engines favors old Github and Reddit posts in top results even when there's new as well as relevant posts in this forum (which are rarely shown anyway despite existing for months).I wonder how much of this is due to the Jellyfin subreddit existing. As in, if the Jellyfin subreddit were to stop existing tomorrow, would the posts in this forum appear more in searches.
I did a quick search test with random problems one could have with Jellyfin in some search engines, and what I found is that not only does the github and subreddit appear more often than this forum, but there are other countless websites as well before this forum.
One thing that I noted here is that a lot of people also post their Jellyfin problems in other communities because their issue could be with Jellyfin, or with the software/hardware they're running Jellyfin on. Things like people posting issues about Jellyfin on forums such as those for OpenMediaVault, Truenas, Unraid, Synology, etc. People search for things about Jellyfin and find all these other places. There could also be people that only stick with those forums since it's most relevant to them and their issues. Like how someone that runs Jellyfin on a Synology NAS will probably only stick to the Synology forums.
(2024-01-19, 12:27 PM)grabbend Wrote: - Login is awful which often makes me give up. Trying to remember the password and doing CAPTCHA 3 times gets old real fast (since at first attempt it juat clears your credentials and tells you to complete CAPTCHA. Then 2 more times just to remember that I used Discord oAuth since error messages are misleasing, or wait was it Github?).I wonder what your issue here is. After I created my account here, I never been asked to do a CAPTCHA (at least from what I can remember) every time I log-in to this forum. Maybe it's due to anti-spam measures for certain areas in the world?
(2024-01-19, 12:27 PM)grabbend Wrote: - I rarely see users talking about Jellyfin nowadays and complaints about this forum are never ending.Sadly, on reddit, I mostly see Jellyfin getting mentioned when people have anything negative to say about Plex. Same in youtube comments about Plex. It's been years, and online posters still keep bringing up that they'll switch over to Jellyfin when it has about the same amount of feature parity as Plex does (or enough to keep up with their use-cases at least).
Other than that, the popularity of Jellyfin still is small compared to Plex. For example, I was talking with someone while showing them my laptop. They noticed the Jellyfin app I have installed and asked me what Jellyfin is. I told them it's similar to Plex and they instantly knew what Jellyfin was.
RE: Edited: I liked the reddit format over typical Forums (not reddit itself) - tmsrxzar - 2024-01-19
(2024-01-19, 05:19 PM)Efficient_Good_5784 Wrote:(2024-01-19, 12:27 PM)grabbend Wrote: - Login is awful which often makes me give up. Trying to remember the password and doing CAPTCHA 3 times gets old real fast (since at first attempt it juat clears your credentials and tells you to complete CAPTCHA. Then 2 more times just to remember that I used Discord oAuth since error messages are misleasing, or wait was it Github?).I wonder what your issue here is. After I created my account here, I never been asked to do a CAPTCHA (at least from what I can remember) every time I log-in to this forum. Maybe it's due to anti-spam measures for certain areas in the world?
more likely due to user vpn or some such, i have no captcha challenges when using Tor which connects from a lot of different countries
RE: Edited: I liked the reddit format over typical Forums (not reddit itself) - xiNe - 2024-02-05
(2024-01-19, 12:27 PM)grabbend Wrote: My 2 cents about this forum:Agreed
- It's inactive. After forgetting about it for a couple of weeks I was excited to read new posts and comments BUT there's RARELY anything new or interesting here. I don't see advanced users or developers in active discourse about insightful topics here. Just look at how much attention ANY Reddit post recived and the quality of the conversations versus this forum as a whole. It's harder to reach the masses from here...
- SEO ranking is really bad. Search Engines favors old Github and Reddit posts in top results even when there's new as well as relevant posts in this forum (which are rarely shown anyway despite existing for months).
- Markdown is annoying to work with. It's slow, it's not intuitive and scaling has much to be desired with ultrawide monitors.
- Notifications are non-existent. They're missing in Profile CP and sometimes I might get a email notification if I'm lucky (maybe it's working poorly because I've used oAuth?).
- Login is awful which often makes me give up. Trying to remember the password and doing CAPTCHA 3 times gets old real fast (since at first attempt it juat clears your credentials and tells you to complete CAPTCHA. Then 2 more times just to remember that I used Discord oAuth since error messages are misleasing, or wait was it Github?).
- The theme of this forum is boring. It reminds me of 2013 when everyone was using Xenforo and Enjin.. I just want to fall asleep after reading a few posts.
- I rarely see users talking about Jellyfin nowadays and complaints about this forum are never ending.
- If you don't use RSS, you'll likeky to never get notified about new interesting posts. Reddit's frontpage was perfect for organizing multiple communities into one place.
- Just look how active developers, homelab users and casual end-users used to be in Jellyfin's Subreddit. I feel like developers are rarely active if ever here. There's clearly lack of interest in this forum and I don't see a reason it would change any time soon. I LOVE JELLYFIN but not forum.
Restricting the community to this forum is a massive step backwards.
Yes, Reddit's CEO sucks and Lemmy website is even worse.
Nonetheless Reddit is still the best place for discourse.
but...it is what it is, we can't change anything
RE: Edited: I liked the reddit format over typical Forums (not reddit itself) - Venson - 2024-02-05
(2024-01-19, 12:27 PM)grabbend Wrote: My 2 cents about this forum:
- It's inactive. After forgetting about it for a couple of weeks I was excited to read new posts and comments BUT there's RARELY anything new or interesting here. I don't see advanced users or developers in active discourse about insightful topics here. Just look at how much attention ANY Reddit post recived and the quality of the conversations versus this forum as a whole. It's harder to reach the masses from here...
- SEO ranking is really bad. Search Engines favors old Github and Reddit posts in top results even when there's new as well as relevant posts in this forum (which are rarely shown anyway despite existing for months).
- Markdown is annoying to work with. It's slow, it's not intuitive and scaling has much to be desired with ultrawide monitors.
- Notifications are non-existent. They're missing in Profile CP and sometimes I might get a email notification if I'm lucky (maybe it's working poorly because I've used oAuth?).
- Login is awful which often makes me give up. Trying to remember the password and doing CAPTCHA 3 times gets old real fast (since at first attempt it juat clears your credentials and tells you to complete CAPTCHA. Then 2 more times just to remember that I used Discord oAuth since error messages are misleasing, or wait was it Github?).
- The theme of this forum is boring. It reminds me of 2013 when everyone was using Xenforo and Enjin.. I just want to fall asleep after reading a few posts.
- I rarely see users talking about Jellyfin nowadays and complaints about this forum are never ending.
- If you don't use RSS, you'll likeky to never get notified about new interesting posts. Reddit's frontpage was perfect for organizing multiple communities into one place.
- Just look how active developers, homelab users and casual end-users used to be in Jellyfin's Subreddit. I feel like developers are rarely active if ever here. There's clearly lack of interest in this forum and I don't see a reason it would change any time soon. I LOVE JELLYFIN but not forum.
Restricting the community to this forum is a massive step backwards.
Yes, Reddit's CEO sucks and Lemmy website is even worse.
Nonetheless Reddit is still the best place for discourse.
Agreed but not to the reddit part. I really dislike reddit for proper discourse but yes the forum is a pain to work with. On the other hand, which forum software that is still a Forum and not another social hub that is free and open source and offers better usability is out there?
RE: Edited: I liked the reddit format over typical Forums (not reddit itself) - tmsrxzar - 2024-02-05
whether or not it's a good thing, being a Forum instead of some social media platform allows users like me who abhor social media to participate with the jellyfin community