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Anyone else missing the Jellyfin Reddit sub? - locoboco - 2024-12-30
I really miss the Jellyfin subreddit. It felt like such a free and open space where ideas flowed naturally, and discussions were welcoming and constructive. Here, the tone feels a bit stricter at times, and it can come across as less open to new suggestions. I understand the need for structure, but I can’t help but feel nostalgic for the more relaxed and collaborative atmosphere we had there as a community.
Sorry had to get it off my chest 🙂↕️
Take care
RE: Anyone else missing the Jellyfin Reddit sub? - bitmap - 2025-01-02
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Be the change you want to see. I frequented the subreddit and the only thing that seems much different is a) less overall activity and b) no discussion of piracy. I came this way when the sub went dark and posted pretty heavily when I found this as an alternative. If there are things that are too strict, nobody on the mod team or dev team has been unapproachable so I'd say make suggestions or requests. Communities don't exist without users and folks should feel free to respectfully express the issues they identify with that community.
RE: Anyone else missing the Jellyfin Reddit sub? - TheDreadPirate - 2025-01-02
(2025-01-02, 11:50 AM)bitmap Wrote:Quote:Posts:3
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Be the change you want to see. I frequented the subreddit and the only thing that seems much different is a) less overall activity and b) no discussion of piracy. I came this way when the sub went dark and posted pretty heavily when I found this as an alternative. If there are things that are too strict, nobody on the mod team or dev team has been unapproachable so I'd say make suggestions or requests. Communities don't exist without users and folks should feel free to respectfully express the issues they identify with that community.
No lies detected.
If you feel the forum is too uptight, its because nobody sticks around once they get the help they needed. In terms of activity, I'd say that the forum is now as active, if not more active, than r/jellyfin in its hay day.
Also, the off-topic sub-forum exists to be less "uptight".
RE: Anyone else missing the Jellyfin Reddit sub? - LadyZero - 2025-01-05
I believe Jellyfin feels less open compared to Reddit because it operates in a more contained environment. I've noticed that sometimes the Jellyfin developers can come off as a bit brusque, though I don't think it's intentional; everyone has their good and bad days.
I often feel for Niels, the sole main developer for the Android TV app. He dedicates a significant amount of time to improving the app, and I ended up donating $40 to show my appreciation.
It's important for us, the users, to keep the community engaged and active.
RE: Anyone else missing the Jellyfin Reddit sub? - bitmap - 2025-01-05
(2025-01-05, 01:37 AM)LadyZero Wrote: I believe Jellyfin feels less open compared to Reddit because it operates in a more contained environment.
This is a true forum setup rather than what Reddit offered. Subjects are separated and maybe that contributes? The granularity of support, general, troubleshooting, networking, etc... Doesn't feel like most folks know to use it that way anyway. I did ask way long ago about why the team was dissatisfied with Reddit prior to going dark and part of it was a lack of input on the direction of the conversation -- it definitely skewed more towards piracy on Reddit, which we don't really discuss here.
(2025-01-05, 01:37 AM)LadyZero Wrote: I've noticed that sometimes the Jellyfin developers can come off as a bit brusque, though I don't think it's intentional; everyone has their good and bad days.
I also believe English is not the first language for a good portion of the team. I would agree with "terse" but not necessarily brusque. Also, I see them come in to clarify or answer outstanding questions where they specialize or have knowledge, so those tend to be, "This is how Jellyfin works currently, there is not an alternative." That might seem short or abrasive, but it's just a factual statement.
(2025-01-05, 01:37 AM)LadyZero Wrote: It's important for us, the users, to keep the community engaged and active.
I absolutely agree. I'm trying, though I haven't been as active as I'd like. I'm part of a few communities where there's a core of active folks and some occasional lurkers. Do you have any suggestions or ideas how we could do this? Weekly off-topic polls or questions? Ask a Dev topics? Reddit had a much more social feel, where as this forum is set up mainly for support. We just have to figure out how to bring that social element.
RE: Anyone else missing the Jellyfin Reddit sub? - LadyZero - 2025-01-05
(2025-01-05, 02:36 AM)bitmap Wrote:(2025-01-05, 01:37 AM)LadyZero Wrote: I believe Jellyfin feels less open compared to Reddit because it operates in a more contained environment.
This is a true forum setup rather than what Reddit offered. Subjects are separated and maybe that contributes? The granularity of support, general, troubleshooting, networking, etc... Doesn't feel like most folks know to use it that way anyway. I did ask way long ago about why the team was dissatisfied with Reddit prior to going dark and part of it was a lack of input on the direction of the conversation -- it definitely skewed more towards piracy on Reddit, which we don't really discuss here.
(2025-01-05, 01:37 AM)LadyZero Wrote: I've noticed that sometimes the Jellyfin developers can come off as a bit brusque, though I don't think it's intentional; everyone has their good and bad days.
I also believe English is not the first language for a good portion of the team. I would agree with "terse" but not necessarily brusque. Also, I see them come in to clarify or answer outstanding questions where they specialize or have knowledge, so those tend to be, "This is how Jellyfin works currently, there is not an alternative." That might seem short or abrasive, but it's just a factual statement.
(2025-01-05, 01:37 AM)LadyZero Wrote: It's important for us, the users, to keep the community engaged and active.
I absolutely agree. I'm trying, though I haven't been as active as I'd like. I'm part of a few communities where there's a core of active folks and some occasional lurkers. Do you have any suggestions or ideas how we could do this? Weekly off-topic polls or questions? Ask a Dev topics? Reddit had a much more social feel, where as this forum is set up mainly for support. We just have to figure out how to bring that social element.
The fact that English is not their first language can make communication more challenging, but they are effectively conveying their message. Regarding the team's dissatisfaction with Reddit before going dark, my understanding is that Reddit's decision to make its API paid, despite being entirely user-generated content, would require free open-source clients to pay for API access.
RE: Anyone else missing the Jellyfin Reddit sub? - Venson - 2025-01-05
overall i would say (my personal estimate) that 50% of the devs are EU, 20% Asia, 20% USA and 10% other regions.
So yes the majority of team members are not primarly english speakers. In addition to that is that there is a huge culture difference of what some (broadly speaking) might expect, most devs will not take shit because they/we value our freetime a lot and this is what this all is, our hobby. I think many are not accustomed to more direct terms of communication and take flag if they are just told "No" to an question that could have been a 5 sec google search because its already been discussed like 20 times in the forum or in our docs. This is not to be taken in a negative way, its just what we deal with on a daily bases.
To the main topic, reddit overall was seens as an unsuited format for what the team was aiming for. Moderation was a full time job which plus the api controverse lead to the closing down. There is a long a detailed post from josh about the whole topic. To be frank, i dont like (this) forum (software) either, but its what we got ^^.
RE: Anyone else missing the Jellyfin Reddit sub? - LadyZero - 2025-01-05
(2025-01-05, 11:26 AM)Venson Wrote: overall i would say (my personal estimate) that 50% of the devs are EU, 20% Asia, 20% USA and 10% other regions.
So yes the majority of team members are not primarly english speakers. In addition to that is that there is a huge culture difference of what some (broadly speaking) might expect, most devs will not take shit because they/we value our freetime a lot and this is what this all is, our hobby. I think many are not accustomed to more direct terms of communication and take flag if they are just told "No" to an question that could have been a 5 sec google search because its already been discussed like 20 times in the forum or in our docs. This is not to be taken in a negative way, its just what we deal with on a daily bases.
To the main topic, reddit overall was seens as an unsuited format for what the team was aiming for. Moderation was a full time job which plus the api controverse lead to the closing down. There is a long a detailed post from josh about the whole topic. To be frank, i dont like (this) forum (software) either, but its what we got ^^.
It's great that the core team brings together diverse backgrounds and operates across various time zones. I believe the forum could benefit from a more cohesive theme for better clarity, but we'll make the best of the current setup.