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    Jellyfin Forum Off Topic Self-hosting & Homelabs AMD APU for Jellyfin?

     
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    AMD APU for Jellyfin?

    Lasciel
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    #1
    2024-10-07, 09:18 AM
    Greetings,

    I'm new to the world of "Home Servers" but i'm inclined to build one to run Jellyfin in my house for my family. So far, all documentation i found tells me to stay away from AMD if possible.

    However, i wanted to build a AMD System since i have strong aversion against Intel CPUs, or rather Intel as a manufacturer (their handling of the Raptor Lake issue was horrible).

    Would a AMD Ryzen 5 5600G be suffice to run a Jellyfin Server? Or do i need a dedicated GPU as well?
    How resource intensive is running Jellyfin on the CPU? Would i be able to run other applications as well (PhotoPrism, Minecraft Server), or should i have a dedicated Server just for Jellyfin?

    Some help/guidance would be welcome :-)
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    2024-10-07, 12:28 PM
    I would definitely call myself an AMD fanboy.  My DESKTOP is all AMD.

    But Intel Quick Sync is the gold standard for hardware accelerated encoding.  If you don't want to "give Intel your money" (totally understandable), you could get an AMD CPU (not a G model) and a used Intel Arc GPU.

    Having said that, AMD RX6000 and newer dedicated GPUs have pretty good encoders.  I get satisfactory results when I've tested with the RX6800 in my desktop.

    But it's not as good as Intel.  Both their dGPUs and iGPUs have better encoding support and quality than AMD.  You also have to be more careful which AMD dGPU you get.  All their models have decoders, but not all of them have encoders.
    Jellyfin 10.10.7 (Docker)
    Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS w/HWE
    Intel i3 12100
    Intel Arc A380
    OS drive - SK Hynix P41 1TB
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    2024-10-07, 02:21 PM (This post was last modified: 2024-10-07, 02:22 PM by Host-in-the-Shell. Edited 1 time in total.)
    If you aren't particular about encoding quality, an AMD GPU will be fine. I haven't tried their APUs, but did use a 6700XT for a while and the encoding quality was worse than an older laptop iGPU running Intel I was using before.

    I helped a friend set up their Jellyfin server using an NVIDIA card, I think with a 3060. Encoding with these GPUs was far better than AMD's but still somewhat lacking compared to Intel, particularly against the Arc GPU series. If your aversion for Intel is too high and you happen to have an NVIDIA GPU around or can get one at a decent price,  then you can go AMD + NVIDIA to have a decent compromise between encoding quality and not handing over money to Intel.
    Server specs => OS: Debian 12 | GPU: Arc A380 | CPU: Ryzen 5 5600X | 64GB RAM | 56TB
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    2024-10-08, 07:15 AM
    Thank you very much for the feedback, i will then rather go with a AMD Ryzen 5500 and an Intel ARC Graphics card, hoping that idle power consumption will be "okay" for a headless server Grinning-face
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    2024-10-11, 11:24 AM (This post was last modified: 2024-10-11, 11:25 AM by Lasciel. Edited 1 time in total.)
    Update: (didn't want to spam by adding a new Thread)

    I went through multiple phases of planning the server, from "Ryzen 5500 + Arc 380", over to a Intel N100 SoC, over to a Intel Build with a i3 12100... and now im back to AMD...

    Can anyone tell me maybe if this system is feasible for a Jellyfin Server (+ more stuff i plan on doing with it). OS will be Ubuntu or Fedora Server, since unRAID doesn't support ARC GPUs yet from what i read.

    https://geizhals.de/wishlists/4055748

    (Sorry that the website is in German, but the hardware components name should speak for themself)
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    2024-10-11, 12:35 PM
    (2024-10-11, 11:24 AM)Lasciel Wrote: Update: (didn't want to spam by adding a new Thread)

    I went through multiple phases of planning the server, from "Ryzen 5500 + Arc 380", over to a Intel N100 SoC, over to a Intel Build with a i3 12100... and now im back to AMD...

    Can anyone tell me maybe if this system is feasible for a Jellyfin Server (+ more stuff i plan on doing with it). OS will be Ubuntu or Fedora Server, since unRAID doesn't support ARC GPUs yet from what i read.

    https://geizhals.de/wishlists/4055748

    (Sorry that the website is in German, but the hardware components name should speak for themself)

    https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/admini...nd-quality

    Yes it does.
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    2024-10-11, 01:23 PM
    All 3 configurations you mentioned are feasible. A lot of users here have N100 based systems and have reported excellent performance for the tiny power usage. I ran just my 12100 for a while before deciding I wanted AV1 encoding and got an Arc GPU. If I were to plan this out again, knowing I would get an Arc GPU, I would have gotten a 5000 series Ryzen CPU instead of the Intel 12100.
    Jellyfin 10.10.7 (Docker)
    Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS w/HWE
    Intel i3 12100
    Intel Arc A380
    OS drive - SK Hynix P41 1TB
    Storage
        4x WD Red Pro 6TB CMR in RAIDZ1
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    2024-11-28, 12:10 PM
    Quick follow up, i did end up with an Intel A310 as GPU + AMD 5500 as CPU.

    System is up and running, jellyfin is jellyfine Grinning-face everything works perfectly. Setting up the docker compose file to use the intel GPU was easy.
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    2024-12-02, 02:27 PM (This post was last modified: 2024-12-02, 02:28 PM by RostigerSpieler. Edited 1 time in total.)
    @Lasciel

    I can tell you from my own experience that your 5600G will perform well.

    I use a small mini PC with a Ryzen 3400G for my system. And all movies run there under Windows 11 without any problems. Only some formats can cause problems. For example, the sound runs asynchronously. However, this depends on the encoder settings and the video format used.
    I have the most problems with the m2ts, flv and MKV formats. All other formats run without problems. Nevertheless, I rip them all to mp4, as this works best in Jellyfin. And above all on all devices (smartphone, tablet, Android/Fire TV).

    My system runs 24/7 and is very energy efficient.
    The system I use is listed below the article.
    Jellyfin: 10.10.7
    My Movie Server: Asrock A300 Desk Mini
    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G
    RAM: G.Skill RipJaws DDR4-3000 32GB
    System SSD: Intenso MI500 1TB NVMe
    Movie HDD: WD Elements 25A3 8TB
    Windows 11 Pro
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