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RE: HDR Transcoding - hexoverflow - 2024-09-17

H265 transcoding with HDR is now available in Plex. I'm praying jellyfin will support it one day too


RE: HDR Transcoding - nyanmisaka - 2024-09-17

(2024-09-17, 09:14 AM)hexoverflow Wrote: H265 transcoding with HDR is now available in Plex. I'm praying jellyfin will support it one day too

If you look through the discussion in their thread, you'll see that the quality of the implementation is very poor and the supported platforms are very limited. I don't like this, even if it's labeled pre-alpha you shouldn't let users test this kind of thing.

Not to mention that they only care about Intel and Nvidia and then call it a day. In addition to this, we also support AMD, Apple Silicon and Rockchip.

Over the past two years we've added and polished the 10-bit transcoding pipelines in FFmpeg that we need to support the HWA methods, including DOVI P5 to HDR10. So after Jellyfin 10.10 is the cut we'll start working on enabling them in the server. At that time, 10-bit with and without HDR will be enabled on the encoder side.


RE: HDR Transcoding - kwm1800 - 2024-09-23

(2024-09-17, 09:14 AM)hexoverflow Wrote: H265 transcoding with HDR is now available in Plex. I'm praying jellyfin will support it one day too

They still can't even properly support tonemapping let alone HDR transcoding. Don't expect too much from those guys especially regarding transcoding issues.


RE: HDR Transcoding - nyanmisaka - 2024-09-23

(2024-09-23, 01:56 PM)kwm1800 Wrote:
(2024-09-17, 09:14 AM)hexoverflow Wrote: H265 transcoding with HDR is now available in Plex. I'm praying jellyfin will support it one day too

They still can't even properly support tonemapping let alone HDR transcoding. Don't expect too much from those guys especially regarding transcoding issues.

Not sure what you're basing this on?

But your words are totally true for Plex, they don't support any hardware tonemapping on AMD and Apple, let alone Dolby Vision tonemapping. Even Windows support for intel tonemapping was hastily added recently.


RE: HDR Transcoding - ototos - 2024-09-23

I may be ignorant on the matter. But with server (vps), plex I can see HDR contents decently (probably they are SDR), with the right colors and not dead ones.
While I remember that with jellyfin this didn't happen, effectively making half the library useless.
Unfortunately the contents are not original, but are manipulated by others.

I hope it improves on that front too, I believe that most users have a remote server with only CPU.


RE: HDR Transcoding - nyanmisaka - 2024-09-23

(2024-09-23, 03:30 PM)ototos Wrote: I may be ignorant on the matter. But with server (vps), plex I can see HDR contents decently (probably they are SDR), with the right colors and not dead ones.
While I remember that with jellyfin this didn't happen, effectively making half the library useless.
Unfortunately the contents are not original, but are manipulated by others.

I hope it improves on that front too, I believe that most users have a remote server with only CPU.

Yes. If you want to burn your processor, the upcoming Jellyfin 10.10 has SIMD-optimized (AVX/SSE/NEON) software HDR/DV tonemapping support.

I'm sure it's the fastest of all the competitors and it will prove worth the wait.

https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/pull/12270

https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/pull/12571


RE: HDR Transcoding - kwm1800 - 2024-09-26

(2024-09-23, 02:23 PM)nyanmisaka Wrote:
(2024-09-23, 01:56 PM)kwm1800 Wrote:
(2024-09-17, 09:14 AM)hexoverflow Wrote: H265 transcoding with HDR is now available in Plex. I'm praying jellyfin will support it one day too

They still can't even properly support tonemapping let alone HDR transcoding. Don't expect too much from those guys especially regarding transcoding issues.

Not sure what you're basing this on?

But your words are totally true for Plex, they don't support any hardware tonemapping on AMD and Apple, let alone Dolby Vision tonemapping. Even Windows support for intel tonemapping was hastily added recently.


Sorry for not being clear enough, my statement is for Plex.

I am kind of gave up on proprietary formats. Nevermind Dolby Vision... just having basic HDR tonemapping is more than enough for me, which Plex fails to do so.


RE: HDR Transcoding - nyanmisaka - 2024-09-26

Quote:
Sorry for not being clear enough, my statement is for Plex.

I am kind of gave up on proprietary formats. Nevermind Dolby Vision... just having basic HDR tonemapping is more than enough for me, which Plex fails to do so.

That’s okay. Jellyfin 10.10 also improves the default tonemap mode, which produces much more natural colors in many scenes.

https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-ffmpeg/issues/429


RE: HDR Transcoding - TheDreadPirate - 2024-09-26

(2024-09-26, 03:40 AM)kwm1800 Wrote: Sorry for not being clear enough, my statement is for Plex.

I am kind of gave up on proprietary formats. Nevermind Dolby Vision... just having basic HDR tonemapping is more than enough for me, which Plex fails to do so.

I am very much in this boat.

If your content is DV7 or 8, I wrote a guide to convert it to HDR10.  No re-encoding required.

https://forum.jellyfin.org/t-converting-dolby-vision-to-hdr10