doubt, update hardware

[Drake97]

Hello,

is upgrading from an i5 7500 to an i5 10400 worth it ? My Optiplex sff already ran out of space to put more hard drives, even using a lot of usb external USB, therefore I am in the crusade to assemble a complete cabinet with more hdd brackets, and I am offered an i5 10400 for around 95-97 USD (marketplace seaarch), do you think it is worth it or I go for a slightly more powerful option ?

Anyway I don't plan to have something so powerful, I'm just asking since I'm going to buy a bigger PC case, I'd rather take advantage of upgrading the cpu and mobo so I don't have to do it in the future.
The users are currently around 15 to 20 on my server with Jellyfin

I am also open to recommendations for a better Intel cpu, to take better advantage of what is recommended in the Jellyfin documentation.

 Thanks in advance

[TheDreadPirate]

If it comes with a motherboard, definitely. Other motherboards can be harder to come by and are usually close to their original MSRP.

Your other option is to get an Arc GPU. It will blow away the 10400 and 7500.

[Drake97]

If it comes with a motherboard, definitely.  Other motherboards can be harder to come by and are usually close to their original MSRP.

Your other option is to get an Arc GPU.  It will blow away the 10400 and 7500.

hello, first of all thank you for the reply.

I have a couple of questions to see if you can help me please

- if i keep my i5-7500 and buy an Intel Arc A380 Challenger 6gb (95,000 CLP = around 100 USD) will it be worth it ? won't it make some kind of bottleneck or something ? (i have a MSI B250M PRO-VH motherboard)
- the i5 10400 doesn't come with a motherboard, it would just be the CPU and nothing else, so it's not worth it ?
- How recommendable are the video surveillance hdd's? like the Skyhawk, WD Purple, etc. to keep my library of movies, shows and that ? it turns out that the NAS or desktop hdds are too expensive these days and the CCTV ones are quite cheap and that is why I asking to see if it would be recommendable or its better to save for a NAS hdd or even a desktop HDD.


sorry for so many questions and thank you in advance for the information

[Fate]

If it comes with a motherboard, definitely.  Other motherboards can be harder to come by and are usually close to their original MSRP.

Your other option is to get an Arc GPU.  It will blow away the 10400 and 7500.

hello, first of all thank you for the reply.

I have a couple of questions to see if you can help me please

- if i keep my i5-7500 and buy an Intel Arc A380 Challenger 6gb (95,000 CLP = around 100 USD) will it be worth it ? won't it make some kind of bottleneck or something ? (i have a MSI B250M PRO-VH motherboard)
- the i5 10400 doesn't come with a motherboard, it would just be the CPU and nothing else, so it's not worth it ?
- How recommendable are the video surveillance hdd's? like the Skyhawk, WD Purple, etc. to keep my library of movies, shows and that ? it turns out that the NAS or desktop hdds are too expensive these days and the CCTV ones are quite cheap and that is why I asking to see if it would be recommendable or its better to save for a NAS hdd or even a desktop HDD.


sorry for so many questions and thank you in advance for the information

i5-7500 and an Intel Arc A380 will be fast. You probably run into other bottlenecks before cpu/gpu are an issue. (I run on a Intel J5005 with igpu )
You should avoid disks with SMR technology as they are very bad with random writes. So in case you use Raid/ZFS raid z1/z2 avoid any SMR.

I use Seagate Exos X - X20 20TB drives which are quite cheep on a per gb price.

How much data are you looking to store?

[TheDreadPirate]

If it comes with a motherboard, definitely.  Other motherboards can be harder to come by and are usually close to their original MSRP.

Your other option is to get an Arc GPU.  It will blow away the 10400 and 7500.

hello, first of all thank you for the reply.

I have a couple of questions to see if you can help me please

- if i keep my i5-7500 and buy an Intel Arc A380 Challenger 6gb (95,000 CLP = around 100 USD) will it be worth it ? won't it make some kind of bottleneck or something ? (i have a MSI B250M PRO-VH motherboard)
- the i5 10400 doesn't come with a motherboard, it would just be the CPU and nothing else, so it's not worth it ?
- How recommendable are the video surveillance hdd's? like the Skyhawk, WD Purple, etc. to keep my library of movies, shows and that ? it turns out that the NAS or desktop hdds are too expensive these days and the CCTV ones are quite cheap and that is why I asking to see if it would be recommendable or its better to save for a NAS hdd or even a desktop HDD.


sorry for so many questions and thank you in advance for the information

Echoing what Fate said, your 7500 should not be a bottle neck.  Audio transcoding and subtitle burn-in still happens on the CPU, but the 7500 is more than fast enough for both tasks to not hinder an Arc GPU.

Since the 10400 does not come with a motherboard, IMO it is not worth the hassle of finding a working motherboard.  Especially if you do choose to get an Arc GPU.  There would be nothing gained from a 10400 + Arc vs a 7500 + Arc.  Even without the Arc GPU, the 10400 is not a significant upgrade.

IMO, surveillance HDDs are probably not a good idea.  Their firmware is write optimized.  I'm not sure what real world impact that would actually have, though.

What kind of price difference are we talking about?

[Drake97]

If it comes with a motherboard, definitely.  Other motherboards can be harder to come by and are usually close to their original MSRP.

Your other option is to get an Arc GPU.  It will blow away the 10400 and 7500.

hello, first of all thank you for the reply.

I have a couple of questions to see if you can help me please

- if i keep my i5-7500 and buy an Intel Arc A380 Challenger 6gb (95,000 CLP = around 100 USD) will it be worth it ? won't it make some kind of bottleneck or something ? (i have a MSI B250M PRO-VH motherboard)
- the i5 10400 doesn't come with a motherboard, it would just be the CPU and nothing else, so it's not worth it ?
- How recommendable are the video surveillance hdd's? like the Skyhawk, WD Purple, etc. to keep my library of movies, shows and that ? it turns out that the NAS or desktop hdds are too expensive these days and the CCTV ones are quite cheap and that is why I asking to see if it would be recommendable or its better to save for a NAS hdd or even a desktop HDD.


sorry for so many questions and thank you in advance for the information

i5-7500 and an Intel Arc A380 will be fast. You probably run into other bottlenecks before cpu/gpu are an issue. (I run on a Intel J5005 with igpu )
You should avoid disks with SMR technology as they are very bad with random writes. So in case you use Raid/ZFS raid z1/z2 avoid any SMR.

I use Seagate Exos X - X20 20TB drives which are quite cheep on a per gb price.

How much data are you looking to store?

hello,
Honestly, I plan to increase and maintain as much storage as possible, so far I'm at 12TB (many small and big hdds) and my idea is maybe, to get to 18 or more tb's if possible, get more and more storage.

[Drake97]

If it comes with a motherboard, definitely.  Other motherboards can be harder to come by and are usually close to their original MSRP.

Your other option is to get an Arc GPU.  It will blow away the 10400 and 7500.

hello, first of all thank you for the reply.

I have a couple of questions to see if you can help me please

- if i keep my i5-7500 and buy an Intel Arc A380 Challenger 6gb (95,000 CLP = around 100 USD) will it be worth it ? won't it make some kind of bottleneck or something ? (i have a MSI B250M PRO-VH motherboard)
- the i5 10400 doesn't come with a motherboard, it would just be the CPU and nothing else, so it's not worth it ?
- How recommendable are the video surveillance hdd's? like the Skyhawk, WD Purple, etc. to keep my library of movies, shows and that ? it turns out that the NAS or desktop hdds are too expensive these days and the CCTV ones are quite cheap and that is why I asking to see if it would be recommendable or its better to save for a NAS hdd or even a desktop HDD.


sorry for so many questions and thank you in advance for the information

Echoing what Fate said, your 7500 should not be a bottle neck.  Audio transcoding and subtitle burn-in still happens on the CPU, but the 7500 is more than fast enough for both tasks to not hinder an Arc GPU.

Since the 10400 does not come with a motherboard, IMO it is not worth the hassle of finding a working motherboard.  Especially if you do choose to get an Arc GPU.  There would be nothing gained from a 10400 + Arc vs a 7500 + Arc.  Even without the Arc GPU, the 10400 is not a significant upgrade.

IMO, surveillance HDDs are probably not a good idea.  Their firmware is write optimized.  I'm not sure what real world impact that would actually have, though.

What kind of price difference are we talking about?

Hi,
At least in official stores in my country, surveillance hdd's are around 50-55 USD, while PC HDD's go for 110 USD and NAS HDDs for 120 USD (all this example filtering for 4TB disks).

however, I am considering the idea of looking for a used disk at a good price on fb marketplace and that has not been used so much, obviously with the seller sending me evidence of the functionality and thus to be able to lower the costs a little, since I gave up the idea of going for surveillance hdds.
Additionally, the guy who sold the Intel Arc a380 no longer has it available so I will postpone the installation of the GPU and wait for a similar one to come out, as I do not know what option would be advisable in nvidia.

[Fate]

Hi,
At least in official stores in my country, surveillance hdd's are around 50-55 USD, while PC HDD's go for 110 USD and NAS HDDs for 120 USD (all this example filtering for 4TB disks).

however, I am considering the idea of looking for a used disk at a good price on fb marketplace and that has not been used so much, obviously with the seller sending me evidence of the functionality and thus to be able to lower the costs a little, since I gave up the idea of going for surveillance hdds.
Additionally, the guy who sold the Intel Arc a380 no longer has it available so I will postpone the installation of the GPU and wait for a similar one to come out, as I do not know what option would be advisable in nvidia.

You can also try go to stay with the igpu for now if most content can be direct played and add the gpu later. How many user are you expecting?

As for the disks, are you planning to use Raid? What does your backup look like?
Maybe two 14TB Raid1 disk? Seagate Exos X - X16 14TB cost about 220 euro here.

[Drake97]

Hi,
At least in official stores in my country, surveillance hdd's are around 50-55 USD, while PC HDD's go for 110 USD and NAS HDDs for 120 USD (all this example filtering for 4TB disks).

however, I am considering the idea of looking for a used disk at a good price on fb marketplace and that has not been used so much, obviously with the seller sending me evidence of the functionality and thus to be able to lower the costs a little, since I gave up the idea of going for surveillance hdds.
Additionally, the guy who sold the Intel Arc a380 no longer has it available so I will postpone the installation of the GPU and wait for a similar one to come out, as I do not know what option would be advisable in nvidia.

You can also try go to stay with the igpu for now if most content can be direct played and add the gpu later. How many user are you expecting?

As for the disks, are you planning to use Raid? What does your backup look like?
Maybe two 14TB Raid1 disk? Seagate Exos X - X16 14TB cost about 220 euro here.

Nop, not raid and notyhing like that, only disk and massive storage

What do you think about this disks ?

https://www.disctech.com/Hitachi-Ultrast...-SATA-HDDs