2024-07-31, 09:30 PM
(This post was last modified: 2024-07-31, 10:27 PM by makuc. Edited 3 times in total.)
(2023-10-29, 06:22 PM)bitmap Wrote: Not really here to argue, I just want to point out that the "thinking" you've said is flawed is not thinking, it's the reality of where Jellyfin exists. If you don't like it, you have two options: submit a feature request or code it yourself.
You do realize that's what he did, right? Make a sugestion, I mean. Sure, he made an assumption about how the team went about the implementation, but he also suggested that mixed content should be improved and not (as he, again, assumed might happen) killed in the future. He's not a technical person so his response should be considered a suggestion by a layman - non-tecnical person. Instead of a tecnical discussion with him, where more people could be engaged in exploring the possibilities of what is and what could be, as a proper tecnical person would do when communicating with a layman, and then together posting an official feature request, you simply attacked him because the current Jellyfin doesn't go about mixed content in such a way.
And then you comment on his response where he tried defending himself with another assumption simply because he (like me) doesn't know how you organize your content, nor how documentaries work in your country. He described his situation, you didn't describe yours. Assumptions were the only thing he could go with and again, you attack him for it.
(2023-10-29, 06:22 PM)bitmap Wrote: If you utilize a different media organizer for your metadata (e.g., Servarr, TMM), I'm sure a mixed media library would work fine. The trick described in the OP here is just to get the right metadata. Your "not like other admins" comment just increases the pretentiousness of your post.
Unfortunaltey, in my third-person view, you are being pretentious in this case. You are enforcing your views, attacking him for telling his opinion while trying to explore options in the current version of Jellyfin, all the while telling him he has no idea what is and what isn't and assuming how Libraries should be organized. He already stated, it works for him. He didn't go into the details of how he actually does the organizing, which is a shame since I'm also looking for ways to improve the organization of my libraries for mixed content (callout to @Duvel ) and his approach with proper folder structure seems more aligned with mine, and if it works for him I see no reason for you discouraging others from doing the same.
So you are also assuming it shouldn't work, despite him claiming it does, while saying he is pretentious for making assumptions.
(2023-10-29, 06:22 PM)bitmap Wrote: One user or 100, nobody wants their media poorly organized. I get what you're saying, but it's not a "doesn't work if you have X amount of users" situation, it's 100% your preference.Again, you are assuming what works for you, works for everyone.
He is correct in this case and you were wrong. Organizing for many people isn't the same as organizing for a single person, which, in my humble opinion, actually proves his point even further - that you are either organizing for yourself, or for technically more adept people. For non-techincal people, explaining to them why something isn't grouped together the way it appears more logical to them isn't as simple as even you were once again assuming. You know you need to organise it differently due to techical difficulties. A bigger group simply won't understand something like this and will insist it is illogical! Some might undrestand, but the majority won't!
Splitting the libraries makes searching for similar stuff a chore, especially if they are a continuation. As it were already mentioned in this thread, very common in Anime and even new trend we see with movies & serise (Star Wars).
You have a season or two, then you get a movie, and then you once again get a season. You'll go to the folder with shows and watch the series. How will you know you need to watch the movies if it won't even be there? That's the case and opening statement here and none of your responses addressed. You assumed all the content can be split, but it can't be if it represents a single whole.
He also pointed out the case for Star Wars - you have Movies and you have Series. Sure, you can split them, but you'll only watch them in proper order if you actually know the series exist. Not everyone will! You are simply assuming everyone will know, because you know. And hence why his argument actually holds true, it simply isn't the same if you are organizing for a larger group of people than if you are organizing for yourself or like-minded people.
Sorry to reviving the thread, but it is still very much relevanat and I hope I added some more to the context and reasoning I assume this thread was started in the first place to brainstorm on how to improve the mixed content libraries or how to trick the current functionality to work good-enough for most.
EDIT: How I didn't see the next 2 pages of replies is beyond me - probably because normally, the pages selection menu is above the reply field and on the right or center aligned, instead of left. A weird design decision for the forum in my opinion. But I won't be deleting this post anyway, since it still holds true.