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    Jellyfin Forum Support General Questions I really hate that Jellyfin cannot work with folders and subfolders

     
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    I really hate that Jellyfin cannot work with folders and subfolders

    jellyfin
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    #1
    2024-12-01, 10:11 PM (This post was last modified: 2024-12-01, 10:13 PM by jellyfin. Edited 1 time in total.)
    When ripping my DVDs, I simply have folders per DVD.

    That works with movies, but Jellyfin has lots of problems with shows.

    Yes, that could be changed by completely reordering and renaming all files, but I really don't want to do this!
    I want a folder per DVD, exactly like I ripped them - and ideally, without renaming anything.

    But it seems Jellyfin forces me to reorganize everything, as it otherwise messes up the right sequence, when episodes are distributed over several sub-folders.

    Just wanted to drop this feedback.
    No reply needed.
    But it's frustrating.

    In general, Jellyfin forces lots of things and is not very flexible.

    But yes, I know the recommendations for naming shows!

    One example:

    Code:
    tja@mini:/Volumes/MEDIA/CONTENT/SERIES/VAMPIRE_DIARIES$ \ls -l VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC*/*.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1464054853 Nov 29 02:27 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC1/C1_t01.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1390953816 Nov 29 02:33 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC1/C2_t02.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1401644454 Nov 29 02:38 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC1/C3_t03.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1404557247 Nov 29 02:43 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC1/C4_t04.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1386166459 Nov 29 02:51 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC1/C5_t05.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1456098262 Nov 29 02:59 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC1/C6_t06.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1393861508 Nov 29 03:37 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC2/C1_t01.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1377367701 Nov 29 03:43 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC2/C2_t02.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1399934405 Nov 29 03:48 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC2/C3_t03.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1400956498 Nov 29 03:53 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC2/C4_t04.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1326459249 Nov 29 04:00 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC2/C5_t05.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1389580768 Nov 29 13:21 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC3/C1_t01.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1384208609 Nov 29 13:26 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC3/C2_t02.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1402913522 Nov 29 13:31 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC3/C3_t03.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1391513045 Nov 29 13:37 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC3/C4_t04.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1405092939 Nov 29 13:45 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC3/C5_t05.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1367382229 Nov 29 14:35 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC4/C1_t01.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1397337545 Nov 29 14:41 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC4/C2_t02.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1402225721 Nov 29 14:46 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC4/C3_t03.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1396603587 Nov 29 14:52 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC4/C4_t04.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1403173796 Nov 29 15:00 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC4/C5_t05.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1405103001 Nov 29 15:38 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC5/G1_t01.mkv
    -rwx------  1 tja  staff  1386712468 Nov 29 15:44 VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC5/G2_t02.mkv


    Jellyfin cannot work with this, even as Seasons and Tracks are clear, but the folders-per-disk mess up the sequence.
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    #2
    2024-12-02, 02:45 AM
    As you already stated, you are not naming in compliance with our documentation. No, there is no way around it if you want automated metadata and organization in the UI.
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    2024-12-02, 03:30 PM (This post was last modified: 2024-12-02, 03:50 PM by RostigerSpieler. Edited 4 times in total.)
    That is true. You need a certain order for series. Otherwise they will not be recognized correctly.

    I always label my folders and files like this (Example):

    Mainfoldername = Stargate SG1
    Subfoldername = S1, S2, S3... And so on. So each season has its own folder, numbered S1, S2 and so on.
    Series episode names = Here it does not matter in which order the labeling is. What is important here is the labeling of the sequence. For example: S01E01, S01E02 and so on.

    And if there is, for example, a reboot of a series with the same name, then the year should also be added to the main folder. Otherwise Jellyfin will also get confused.
    To prepare several files for numbering in one go, I use the “Ant Renamer” Freeware program. I use this to add the S01E to all series parts, for example. And then add the numbering by hand after the letter E (i.e. E01, E02 etc.)

    Also, jellyfin seems to recognize German words like Staffel. At least that works for me as well.


    What u can do with Ant Renamer program.

    U can rename all files per Seasons in a row with one click

    Your DVDs.....

    Drag and drop your files to be renamed into Ant Renamer. Folders must be created separately.

    VAMPIRE_DIARIES_SEASON1_DISC1/C1_t01.mkv

    In Ant Renamer go to Actions. Then to "String replacement".

    Add this to First line (Seach for):

    C1_t01.mkv

    And Second line (Replace by)

    C1_S01E01.mkv

    Then click start. An the programm change all the file in one second. And when u make a fail... no problem. The program has a Undo button.
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    #4
    2024-12-09, 06:22 PM
    @TheDreadPirate and @RostigerSpieler

    Thanks for your replies, but I know all of this - I read of the recommendations for names files from movies and shows!

    I just wanted to complain about how Jellyfin works :-)

    I mean, MOST people rip their stuff with makemkv.

    And therefor MOST people have their stuff looking like this, after moving all extras into an EXTRAS sub-folder:

    VAMPIRE_DIARIES/SEASON_01_DISC1/C1_t01.mkv
    VAMPIRE_DIARIES/SEASON_01_DISC1/C1_t02.mkv
    VAMPIRE_DIARIES/SEASON_01_DISC1/C1_t03.mkv
    VAMPIRE_DIARIES/SEASON_01_DISC1/C1_t04.mkv
    VAMPIRE_DIARIES/SEASON_01_DISC1/C1_t05.mkv
    VAMPIRE_DIARIES/SEASON_01_DISC1/EXTRAS/A1_t01.mkv
    VAMPIRE_DIARIES/SEASON_01_DISC1/EXTRAS/A2_t02.mkv
    VAMPIRE_DIARIES/SEASON_01_DISC1/EXTRAS/A3_t03.mkv
    VAMPIRE_DIARIES/SEASON_01_DISC2/B2_t01.mkv
    VAMPIRE_DIARIES/SEASON_01_DISC2/B2_t02.mkv
    VAMPIRE_DIARIES/SEASON_01_DISC2/B2_t03.mkv
    VAMPIRE_DIARIES/SEASON_01_DISC2/B2_t04.mkv
    VAMPIRE_DIARIES/SEASON_01_DISC2/B2_t05.mkv
    VAMPIRE_DIARIES/SEASON_01_DISC2/EXTRAS/A1_t01.mkv
    VAMPIRE_DIARIES/SEASON_01_DISC2/EXTRAS/B1_t02.mkv

    And this structure is IMPORTANT, IMHO!

    If there is a problem with a file or you are missing something, you can easily pull our the right DVD, rip it again and - just be finished!

    But the way Jellyfin works, all of this get's incredible complicated!
    You need to rename all files, sort them outside their DVD-folder and loose this context!

    For EXTRAs it is even worse, here you cannot have a way to watch the extras that belong to a DVD in this context, not even with a trick (I opened another thread about this, as I had hope for a hidded trick).

    And it seems, it should be totally easy for Jellyfin to determine the right mapping automatically!

    The name of the show is clear, the number of the season is clear, the number if the disk is clear and also the number of the episode.
    And that is true for ANY show I ever ripped!

    So WHY can Jellyfin not handle this?!?

    It makes soooooo many problems for countless people - and also, the renaming is really complicated and takes lots of time.
    If you speed-rip lots and lots of shows, that amounts to a real problem.

    That is what I wanted to complain about :-)
    No need to reply, I posted just with the hope that someone how is developing Jellyfin may read this and think about adding a more sensible way to handle shows (and partly movies).


    But of course, the most important missing feature is: Changing paths to libraries without loosing metadata.
    That REALLY should be fixed soon!

    Many thanks!
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