Question about organising the new Doctor Who specials (2023)

[grobleschmomble]

What the description says basically. I'm wondering how to organize the new Doctor Who specials (The Star Beast & Wild Blue Yonder) on Jellyfin. First I tried in the specials folder, as S00E162 etc. but they wouldn't show up. I found out that Jellyfin takes the Doctor Who metadata from another site that has these specials as part of a "new show" with these being special episodes 1 and 2, before season 14 starts as season "1". I realize this is because RTD said they're resetting the numbering, but I guess I'm asking if there's a way to keep it all in one show (hopefully without doing it manually) or if I'm just overreacting and should accept the two shows thing lol. Thanks!

[TheDreadPirate]

Unfortunately, Jellyfin is at the mercy of the online metadata sources.

[enesha]

What the description says basically. I'm wondering how to organize the new Doctor Who specials (The Star Beast & Wild Blue Yonder) on Jellyfin. First I tried in the specials folder, as S00E162 etc. but they wouldn't show up. I found out that Jellyfin takes the Doctor Who metadata from another site that has these specials as part of a "new show" with these being special episodes 1 and 2, before season 14 starts as season "1". I realize this is because RTD said they're resetting the numbering, but I guess I'm asking if there's a way to keep it all in one show (hopefully without doing it manually) or if I'm just overreacting and should accept the two shows thing lol. Thanks!

So I'm not sure entirely of the numbering scheme...I do know when I got the eposides they were 00 specials.  That did not work for the library.  Just renaming them to the new season eps 01 and 02 they lined up properly.  I am not sure what this means for the 3rd episode with Donna and the Dr, or how that will deal with the upcoming new Dr and X-Mas special. but for now that works in my library.

[jledv]

My Jellyfin uses metadata from TheMovieDB as the first choice, which I believe was the default, but theMovieDB no longer has it under the series that (re)started in 2005. I had to click on the 3-dots menu on the series and select "identify", then set it to the brand new series that TheMovieDB has for the reboot: https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/239770-doctor-who. Search for "Doctor Who" and choose the series with Ncuti Gatwa on the poster instead of the tardis. They are s00e01, s00e02, etc.

It looks like the theMovieDB will have the forthcoming season as s01 in that series. I would hope there's a way to name the files and directories to automatically detect the new series, but I don't know what it is. Out of curiosity, I tried naming a directory "Doctor Who (2023)" and "Doctor Who 2023" and the files as "Doctor.Who.2023.s00e01", but it still assigned it to the 1963 series.

I did check theTVDB first, before checking my metadata sources, since that was what I had Plex using (just switched to Jellyfin on a homelab a few weeks ago and I LOVE it!). TheTVDB has them as e.g. s00e162 in the 2005 series: https://thetvdb.com/series/doctor-who-20...official/0

The only other source option I see in the Jellyfin settings is omdbapi.com. Perhaps there they are s14e01 in the 2005 series, and perhaps enesha has that as their first choice and that's why that naming worked for enesha. I don't feel like getting an api key just to investigate.

[elephantLYFE]

Completely relies on the metadata source you pull from.

I am in the same situation of the "New" reboot of Kitchen Nightmares US.

some sources had it as a S01 Reboot, some sources have it has S08.
And some sources have changed how it is listed too since it started airing this fall.

Other than being selective with the DB of which you choose to be in line with.
You could LOCK the show from any API changes, and make all the edits manually how you want it to show.

[EasyTiger]

Hi – I imagine everyone has this sorted out by now, but if now, here's the way I've done it today, with the new series Blu-Ray landing on the doormat this morning. 

This is classed as a new series, so it's season 1 rather than season 40 or 14. Even though the specials aired in 2023, themoviedb.org calls it Doctor Who (2024). It has the number code 239770 on that site, which is what will work as an identifier. 

So, name the top level folder Doctor Who (2024)
Inside that, folder named Specials. The episode numbers within that should be:
s00e01 The Star Beast
s00e02 Wild Blue Yonder
s00e03 The Giggle
s00e04 The Church on Ruby Road

Those will scavenge the correct meta-data. 

…and because JellyFin is a wonderful tool, it'll let you add those to season 1 – just use the metadata editor for each episode, and set them all to airs before season 1 / before episode 1, and it'll take care of the rest.