New Jellyfin Server/Web release: 10.11.5

[jellykrabbypatty]

Everything works OK for me except Music library takes a really long time to initially load.

[azboo13]

Was previously on 10.10.7, (win 11) decided to try this out and the migration went smoothly and the performance has been great so far. My cpu is not maxing out during database scans now or watching videos. You guys are amazing, thank you for making such a great program.

[luckless]

Loading anything related to music (artists pages, playlists, albums) takes very long compared to 10.10.7

Everything else is good.

[raulo1985]

They took six months, and nobody reported the issue you're having because it's a niche issue. Have you created bug reports to help this get solved?

People really need to understand that it's not the same a 6 month period of beta testing than releasing it to the general public, with hundreds or thousands of different setups, use cases and different knowledge to be able to troubleshoot. And people asking to test it more before releasing usually don't understand that general users feedback is needed to polish a build that was perfectly stable for a reduced number of people during testing. If you change the entire way of how the database is handled (and devs explained why this was needed) on an open source project, most likely you'll end up with either years of beta testing (and with a lot of bugs anyway when it gets released) or a general release with undetected bugs that are more likely to get fixed with the help of the entire community. And to the users that ask why it's so difficult to fix a particular bug, haven't they looked at the code (probably not)? Nothing in JF is simple, it's a great and very complex piece of software, otherwise everyone could fix their own bugs. I don't think the devs are overlooking anything, it's just that they have to fix a lot of bugs and not all of them have priority number one (and at the same time they have to keep developing the project without staying all the time squashing bugs). Tbh, I don't even know how they find the time to do all of this without it being their real job.

So I support the way the team is managing the releases. If you want stability and all the good stuff that JF has, you can stay on 10.10.7 and still have a great experience. If you want cutting edge features at the cost of a more buggy experience, but want to help by reporting, by all means upgrade to 10.11.x. Other projects don't give you options or think about specific use cases. I really can't think of a better way to handle releases without slowing the project development a lot by having ultra beta tested releases (and that get out to the public after a year or two, while losing their feedback).

Just my opinion.

[jellykrabbypatty]

Hello,

Still experiencing extreme slowness when accessing a mixed library.

i remember reading on previous topics here that "mixed library" has been depecrated and won't be getting any support.
Devs should remove that option from future releases to avoid confusion.

from now on you have to seperate and sort your folders the right way.

nooooo keep it it works fine for me. I don't know why people have such issues with mixed library it works fine for me

[Ted Hinklater]

Updated to 10.11.5, web-ui became slow to load pages/images, checked the console - it was the Home Screen Sections plugin giving errors. Disabled it, restarted server, re-enabled & restart again, now everything's quick again, thanks for the updates devs!

[rlue]

@Derfel The mixed libraries option is legacy and probably should come with a warning not to use.

There is a post from 4 years ago on Reddit r/jellyfin from a Jellyfin Team member saying: "Mixed libraries are basically never the right answer. It's really hard for the scanner to correctly identify a media type based on a folder name, and support for them in clients is frustrating at best. That library option is mostly there for legacy reasons."

They go on to say: "it was there when we forked, nobody has removed it yet, and if we remove it now a small subset of people will revolt."

I appreciate the clarification, but I would ask how users are supposed to handle niche / independent content which maybe you don't expect there to exist public metadata for at all, and which doesn't fit neatly into the existing categories? For instance, I have a collection of instructional VHS/DVD/YouTube content (and another collection of academic lectures) ripped to my library, where some of it is serial and some is one-off. I would really like to avoid creating two separate "How-To (Movies)" / "How-To (Series)" libraries.

I don't necessarily need Jellyfin to fetch metadata and cover art for me; are there existing library types that support this use case? I really do think that, at a minimum, this use case should be acknowledged in the docs and forums, even if only to say "We don't officially support a way of doing this yet." Surely, I can't be the only one who has a whole collections of obscure media types that you wouldn't expect to find on tmdb or omdb?

(also congratulations to the devs on another release; always very grateful for the free software 🙇🏻)

[gaming09]

If mixed or "other" libraries are truly being depreciated what would someone suggest i use for like youtube series pulled down? tv shows?

[Matt84uk]

So I support the way the team is managing the releases. If you want stability and all the good stuff that JF has, you can stay on 10.10.7 and still have a great experience. If you want cutting edge features at the cost of a more buggy experience, but want to help by reporting, by all means upgrade to 10.11.x. Other projects don't give you options or think about specific use cases. I really can't think of a better way to handle releases without slowing the project development a lot by having ultra beta tested releases (and that get out to the public after a year or two, while losing their feedback).

Just my opinion.

You make a lot of good points and I personally intend to stay on 10.10.7 after far too many issues with 10.11.x - however - in order to do so the clients need to still support it. The xbox app already ditched support for 10.10.x - I'm hoping the others don't follow otherwise it won't be possible to stay on the version which is stable and working. I get that support for older versions would stop eventually but it just seems FAR too quickly for clients to be ending support for a stable version in favour of 10.11 with its huge db change which is breaking so many setups which were working fine.

Edited to add:

Also 10.11 even if it manages to stay running isn't a viable option whole it doesn't work right with "home videos and images" I have a library of family occasions, weddings, parties etc which clearly don't have any metadata online to scrape. Surely these sorts of personal videos is one of the more legitimate use cases of such a media server? I have them all organised by folder and literally just need to be able to access and play them in the same way as works fine on 10.10.7 - Now admittedly I've not been able to fully test these myself as 10.11.x just doesn't stay running long enough but I've read many comments where either folders don't show or are all put into one long list?

[ngiann]

Hello,
I still have the same problem as in 10.11.4 :

Cannot install in Windows 11 Pro **clean Install** because Smart App Control is blocking the jellyfin .exe installer.

You can't reproduce this in Windows 11 installations that was upgraded from previous versions that are considered "dirty" and the Smart App Control is not enabled.

It is enabled only in clean - reseted Windows 11 installations, so i can't install jellyfin server.

In 10.11.3 version all Ok - i can install.

You must send feedback along with a copy of the app in order for MS to confirm who wrote the app.

See screenshot