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    Help with n100

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    2025-01-29, 02:32 AM (This post was last modified: 2025-01-29, 02:34 AM by yellow. Edited 1 time in total.)
    I've been using jellyfin on my pc (5600x+3060) as a server and my lg tv as a client, and have been happy, but i decided to build an fanless htpc with an Asus n100 prime mb and ax210 wifi card, to have a bit better performance and less issues with subtitles and everything.

    I've installed W11 Pro, but after trying to play media in jellyfin client as well as youtube on the browser, the performance is not good, even at lower res than 4k. I don't know if there is something wrong, but i've turned on and off the ram xmp, the bios is the latest version, the gpu drivers are installed, windows updates also. On the jellyfin side i've turned on hardware acceleration.

    Because of that i'll probably install linux, but i'm having trouble deciding which distro because of drivers, as i've read about issues with gpu drivers and wifi 6. What i would love would be to have a frontend that i can use with the tv remote.

    thanks in advance
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    2025-01-29, 06:55 AM
    The 3060 is more powerful than the iGPU from the N100 CPU. You may be confusing the drop in performance due to that.

    Is the playback choppy? How are you determining that the playback/performance is not good?
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    2025-01-29, 04:39 PM (This post was last modified: 2025-01-29, 04:39 PM by TheDreadPirate.)
    Ubuntu 24.04 should have no problem with drivers for the N100. Can't speak for WiFi. But PopOS 22.04 (based on Ubuntu 22.04) on my desktop has no issues with the WiFi 6 adapter on my Asus X570 board.
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    2025-01-30, 01:57 PM
    (2025-01-29, 06:55 AM)Efficient_Good_5784 Wrote: The 3060 is more powerful than the iGPU from the N100 CPU. You may be confusing the drop in performance due to that.
    Is the playback choppy? How are you determining that the playback/performance is not good?

    I'm figuring that maybe it is playing in direct play so the heavy lifting is being done by the n100 instead of the server, so should jellyfin be transcoding on the server? I'm not sure if it is direct playing on my lg tv, so the difference in performance may be there, or could the tv be more powerful than the n100?

    I'll have to try linux, just need to figure out which distro. I'm tech savvy but not an IT guy, so i need something very easy to use and configure.
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    2025-01-30, 03:02 PM (This post was last modified: 2025-01-30, 06:22 PM by TheDreadPirate. Edited 2 times in total.)
    Many moons ago, I ran Plex, and briefly Jellyfin, on a Intel mini PC (J4205) running Windows. Even when a file was direct playing, Windows Defender CPU usage spiked massively. Transcoding was not viable due to Windows Defender consuming 60-70% of total CPU time on the J4205's 4 cores.

    And this applied to both Plex and Jellyfin.

    I disabled Windows Defender and the problem went away. But I had already decided to switch to Linux and it made a world of difference. Not just with Windows Defender not consuming resources, but the OS, in general, consuming less resources. I could support a few more streams, more transcodes, with the same low power hardware.

    I strongly recommend Linux over Windows for low power CPUs, like the N100.

    Stick with Debian or Ubuntu. Or any of the distros based on them. Theres a lot of documentation out there, lots of support, lots of users to help you along.
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    2025-01-30, 06:00 PM (This post was last modified: 2025-01-30, 06:01 PM by Efficient_Good_5784. Edited 1 time in total.)
    (2025-01-30, 01:57 PM)yellow Wrote: I'm figuring that maybe it is playing in direct play so the heavy lifting is being done by the n100 instead of the server, so should jellyfin be transcoding on the server? I'm not sure if it is direct playing on my lg tv, so the difference in performance may be there, or could the tv be more powerful than the n100?
    Your Jellyfin server will only ever use the GPU when it needs to transcode something and you have HWA enabled.
    Jellyfin is a media server. You're not watching on the server. The media server sends a video stream through the network and your client plays that.

    Therefore, direct playing is handled by the client device you are using to watch.
    If your client device can direct play something, it will receive the stream as is without modification.
    If your client device can't direct play something, it will tell the Jellyfin server that it needs to transcode the stream so it can receive a stream it does understand.

    When talking about GPUs on the Jellyfin server, it's to allow it to transcode a video for a client faster than what a CPU can provide.
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    2025-01-30, 10:14 PM (This post was last modified: 2025-01-30, 10:27 PM by yellow. Edited 4 times in total.)
    The reason i installed windows was because of compatibilities. I've used it in 15 year old pcs and it is pretty snappy. I've also got a 2008 iMac that plays youtube better than this.

    I will install linux and report back. Any suggestions regarding the distro? I need obviously gpu drivers and wifi 6 working fine. I'll use this mainly as an htpc (jellyfin, youtube, and moonlight streaming for gaming).

    Meanwhile here's some data:
    https://imgur.com/gzYfBNR

    Thanks for the help
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    2025-03-02, 05:40 PM (This post was last modified: 2025-03-02, 05:57 PM by yellow. Edited 2 times in total.)
    I've installed the following distros: mint, zorin, bazzite, and fydeOS (chrome os like), and they all stutter in jellyfin media player and youtube. Zorin is the only one that performs well, but is not flawless, drops very few frames on youtube 4k on firefox, and jellyfin player looks fine but it seems it drops a few frames. FydeOS plays youtube and jellyfin flawlessly on chromium.
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    2025-03-02, 05:57 PM
    You're playing media on the N100, not just using it as a media server? You have to make sure chrome flags report that hw decoding is being used and/or tunred on (use google on how to do this).

    When you say jellyfin media player, do you mean in the browser? Again, you have to manually ensure hw decoding is on in whatever browser you choose to use. You're experience in chromium is likely due to the fact that hw decoding in that browser is already configured for that OS.
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    2025-03-09, 03:55 AM
    Yes, im using it as an htpc. I have used the media client as well as various browsers. I've also tried Clear Linux and it seems it performs best, which is not surprising. I know there must be something i need to configure in linux, but i've already spent many hours trying to troubleshoot and did not have much success.

    Nevertheless, i will continue using webos and android tv versions.
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